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Antony
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modern cars are designed to be as efficient as possible between 60-80 mph... but over 80mph (or small cars like ours at 80mph) are screaming their nuts off and would be burning a shed load more fuel....
good idea in theory, but thought up by those able to afford to run a jag or merc at 90+mph....
good idea in theory, but thought up by those able to afford to run a jag or merc at 90+mph....
Easily rectified by tweeking the mapping, you can easily make a K11 more economical if you really wanted to...or bundle in at 60mph with all the trucks and let the wallys in their gas guzzlers fly past.
Even better run your K11 on LPG
makes motoring very cheap compared to petrol and with todays pricing that's sure to go up LPG conversions are very worth the while, (mine's paid for itself several times over now). Theres the added bonus of not having to pass a cat test come MOT time either 
in Denmark the speed limit on motorways is already 80mph, and guess what, nobody dies! most people do 80 anyway,
i think people care far to much about safety. if they wanted to make the roads safe then make all cars just a plank of wood with a motor on it and thats it, no one would dare go over 5mph otherwise they would go flying. making things safer makes people more careless.
i think people care far to much about safety. if they wanted to make the roads safe then make all cars just a plank of wood with a motor on it and thats it, no one would dare go over 5mph otherwise they would go flying. making things safer makes people more careless.
Antony
Ex. Club Member
its not the cars, nor the drivers, nor the speeds that cause accidents... its our rubbish road network.
the autobahns are kept to a standard most f1 circuits would be proud of and they are 100% lit. our government is talking about switching the lights off at night to save electricity (can they even hear themselves? i mean who would need to have the lights on in the day time??)
pot holes, speed bumps, "traffic calming" measures actualy do the opposite and wind people up.
lets put it this way....
the romans built roads efficiently, as straight as they could. fastest point from a-b.
our motorways and road networks follow most of these roads and are efficient at allowing the flow of traffic to travel freely to its destination...
town roads do the same thing, allow the flow of traffic through the towns and not cause bottle necks and tail backs... so in order to make it "safer"for people the government has decided that slowing the flow down to 20mph (akin to having a man walk in front of your car with a red flag) and introducing chikanes into the road that are not clearly marked or lit and are sometimes on blind corners forcing drivers into the path of oncoming vehicles like some sort of Micromachines demolition derby.... and this is supposed to make driving safer??? im sorry a road with a higher risk of head on collision with a 40mph closing speed is safer than a road with traffic on its own designated lane and closing speed of 60mph?? what are these people smoking?
and if you were in my car with me yesterday through st andrews you would have gotten out and walked... i nearly did...the road (and iuse that word in the loosest sense of the term) looked like the surface of the moon.... now i understand that most of the population of standrews drive around in land rovers and mclass mercs, but to allow the road to get to a point where normal motorsists cannon traverse an entire town without having their dashboards fall appart and their bumpers fall off is insane! i mean the amount of road tax being paid in st andrews is enough to pave the streets with magnetite and have everyone floating around on hover boards like back to the future.....:glare::glare:
but for anyone to say that anything this government has done over the last 20 years to the road network has saved lives they are deluded. and to increase the speed limit to 80mph on roads that arent capable of allowing anyyone but arnold swartzenegar or chuck norris on them is plain insane... the transport minister needs shooting and the whole namby pamby, hoity toity, lardy daah bunch of health and safety, stick it up your ring piece conservative party, eaton goers with their public schoolboy accents and out dated views of anything that isnt tea and cucumber sandwiches at Mrs jones' house need to go and spend a day in a ford fiesta or vauxhall corsa driving through the very places that voted the gits in.....
rant over!!
the autobahns are kept to a standard most f1 circuits would be proud of and they are 100% lit. our government is talking about switching the lights off at night to save electricity (can they even hear themselves? i mean who would need to have the lights on in the day time??)
pot holes, speed bumps, "traffic calming" measures actualy do the opposite and wind people up.
lets put it this way....
the romans built roads efficiently, as straight as they could. fastest point from a-b.
our motorways and road networks follow most of these roads and are efficient at allowing the flow of traffic to travel freely to its destination...
town roads do the same thing, allow the flow of traffic through the towns and not cause bottle necks and tail backs... so in order to make it "safer"for people the government has decided that slowing the flow down to 20mph (akin to having a man walk in front of your car with a red flag) and introducing chikanes into the road that are not clearly marked or lit and are sometimes on blind corners forcing drivers into the path of oncoming vehicles like some sort of Micromachines demolition derby.... and this is supposed to make driving safer??? im sorry a road with a higher risk of head on collision with a 40mph closing speed is safer than a road with traffic on its own designated lane and closing speed of 60mph?? what are these people smoking?
and if you were in my car with me yesterday through st andrews you would have gotten out and walked... i nearly did...the road (and iuse that word in the loosest sense of the term) looked like the surface of the moon.... now i understand that most of the population of standrews drive around in land rovers and mclass mercs, but to allow the road to get to a point where normal motorsists cannon traverse an entire town without having their dashboards fall appart and their bumpers fall off is insane! i mean the amount of road tax being paid in st andrews is enough to pave the streets with magnetite and have everyone floating around on hover boards like back to the future.....:glare::glare:
but for anyone to say that anything this government has done over the last 20 years to the road network has saved lives they are deluded. and to increase the speed limit to 80mph on roads that arent capable of allowing anyyone but arnold swartzenegar or chuck norris on them is plain insane... the transport minister needs shooting and the whole namby pamby, hoity toity, lardy daah bunch of health and safety, stick it up your ring piece conservative party, eaton goers with their public schoolboy accents and out dated views of anything that isnt tea and cucumber sandwiches at Mrs jones' house need to go and spend a day in a ford fiesta or vauxhall corsa driving through the very places that voted the gits in.....
rant over!!
They will never do it.
The enviromentalists will moan about increased CO levels (Even though cars contribute very little to the total CO output of this country)
The road safety mob will moan too regardless of evidence to suggest otherwise. The general public have the opinion road safety is governed by speed limit.
Despite Motorways being safer with a lower deaths per mile ratio of any other type of road.
Speed or speed limit has no bearing on road safety, inappropriate speed and drivers attitude/ability to react in a emergency does.
Driving at 120mph on a deserted motorway at night is less dangerous than driving past a school at 20mph at finishing time.
The enviromentalists will moan about increased CO levels (Even though cars contribute very little to the total CO output of this country)
The road safety mob will moan too regardless of evidence to suggest otherwise. The general public have the opinion road safety is governed by speed limit.
Despite Motorways being safer with a lower deaths per mile ratio of any other type of road.
Speed or speed limit has no bearing on road safety, inappropriate speed and drivers attitude/ability to react in a emergency does.
Driving at 120mph on a deserted motorway at night is less dangerous than driving past a school at 20mph at finishing time.
